Confessions of a Liberal Puritan

Ah, I remember the days when I had a zone 4/5 garden in Iowa (plus about two feet of black topsoil anywhere I stuck my spade) -- and you're right, for those of us who really like raspberries (and like them well enough to put up with thorns, although the golden ones often have fewer thorns, and I admit I won't plant black raspberries at all, since they only produce on second-year wood, and that means they have more time to develop big thorns) it's the perfect climate, pretty much.

However, I'm sorry to hear that yours are such a pain (I never thought about how the next person to own my house may have to put up with my raspberries the way I have to put up with the previous guy's mint!).