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posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 04:55pm on 24/04/2004
Thanks for reassuring me that I'm not going nuts (regarding the Marcus-Franklin conversation, at least!). I'd have to hunt to find that B5 episode in my VHS tape collection (B5 is all mixed in with other stuff, since I was recording them from week to week, for the most part), but if you happen to come across it, please tell me what the exact wording was!

And definitely the irony was pretty thick, there, with Angel's attitude toward free will vs. Jasmine's, and then what Angel actually did. Though I do think that having the fake memories in addition to the real ones gave Connor a much freer choice than he'd ever had before, when his world was limited to pain and anger and all the worst of humans and demons.
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posted by [identity profile] soundingsea.livejournal.com at 06:09pm on 24/04/2004
having the fake memories in addition to the real ones gave Connor a much freer choice than he'd ever had before ... right - cause he has more info now!

I pulled out the DVD and transcribed that scene for you, btw.



Marcus: He was in Earthforce -- doing what?

Franklin: Take a look.

M: You can't show him this.

F: Marcus, it's who he is.

M: I don't care. It'll kill him.

F: Wait now wait now, let's be sensible, alright, this is the first step towards healing him. We can't just let him wander around the rest of his life thinking that he's King Arthur.

M: Why not?

F: Because this is the truth!

M: Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths.

F: Alexander Pushkin, yes.

M: Let this one truth die, Stephen. Let him be Arthur; let him be anyone he wants.

F: I have an obligation to help him. Now if I confront him with this it may be enough to snap him out of this delusion.

M: Your Hippocratic oath says "Do no harm". If you do this you'll be doing great harm, Stephen. Stephen!

F: Look, I'm sorry -- I have to.
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posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 01:52pm on 26/04/2004
M: Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths.
F: Alexander Pushkin, yes.
M: Let this one truth die, Stephen. Let him be Arthur; let him be anyone he wants.

Thanks so much! This will come in handy (besides reassuring me that I didn't imagine that conversation or its possible relevance to "Origin"). You're a true friend, to go the extra mile and transcribe this quote for me. I really appreciate it (as well as all your interesting and profound reflections on 'Angel' in general).

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