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Part 1 (covering the journey to and the first two days of WriterCon) can be found here

And the saga continues . . .

Sunday morning started with eggs and sausage (and raisin bran, 'cause you can't really enjoy a con if you're irregular, now can you?), as well as the obligatory large quantities of coffee, in the Hospitality suite. I had the best of intentions to attend one of the morning panels, really I did, but somehow I ended up talking about the fic library and about Star Trek and other serious matters with a number of wonderful people, and I didn't get my butt in gear soon enough. In retrospect, I really wish I'd attended [livejournal.com profile] dancetomato's Science vs. Magic panel, 'cause I hear it was really good and I remembered her fondly from the religion panel at WriterCon 2006. Oh, well.

Since it was too late to join a panel without being disruptive, I decided to mosey down to the Magic Box one more time (and ended up fetching a coffee for the guy selling the cool T-shirts, who was dying for a caffeine fix -- so that's one life saved, at least, if I need to justify my non-attendance at church that morning!). I'd already bought my two Dr. Who-themed T-shirts (the "Blink" shirt and the tie-dyed TARDIS number) and effectively blown my shopping budget, so I sat down to wait for the raffle drawing on behalf of myself and [livejournal.com profile] texanfan, who'd given me her tickets in case she was still in the Writer's Salon workshop at the time of the drawing.

Naturally, [livejournal.com profile] texanfan won perhaps the heaviest (literally, in terms of actual weight, since I needed to carry those things around until she got out of class) set of prizes, and I won a "Ghost of the Robot" CD in the 'orphan' drawings for the prizes and parts of prizes that the first winners didn't want. Plus, I got that much-needed morning workout lifting weights, as I toted my friend's prizes up to the Hospitality suite -- where she eventually donated all but two of the books to whoever wanted them, while the folks at our lunch table started working on her orphaned C.S.I. jigsaw puzzle.

"...And there was much rejoicing."

About the "-isms" panel ("Racism, Sexism, and Homophobia in Fandom"), let me start by saying that from my narrow and necessarily limited perspective, it actually went much better than I'd feared, though not nearly as well as I'd hoped. (Of course, my expectations for just how badly it could have gone may be distorted by some very un-Christian gatherings I've attended, at which the ordination of women and LGBT persons was discussed with a notable lack of love or mutual respect and a great deal of vitriol. As long as no-one is throwing "God says..." or "God is on my side" bombs at anyone else, I actually have something to be glad of. Which is sad, in and of itself, I guess.)

All the credit for the good in the panel goes to the panelists -- [livejournal.com profile] kalichan, [livejournal.com profile] invisible_lift, [livejournal.com profile] rahirah, and [livejournal.com profile] xionin -- who put a great deal of "energy, intelligence, imagination, and love" (the qualities my church calls for in its ordained teaching and ruling elders, and so the first words that come to mind when I see gifted people freely giving of themselves) into the preparation and leadership of this panel. [livejournal.com profile] invisible_lift was the first to suggest supplemental handouts, and [livejournal.com profile] rahirah found and copied and brought to the con those handouts on white privilege and derailing to fill in some of what a 90-minute panel session could never hope to even begin to cover. [livejournal.com profile] kalichan came up with excellent topics for discussion, many of which joined the long list of issues that weren't touched on before the time ran out (like the issue of power differentials in fandom vs. canon, and whether fanfic and fan art has an obligation to be activist in the name of truly participatory culture, correcting the failings of the source material). [livejournal.com profile] xionin agreed to join the panel on much less than 24 hours' notice, and shared some extremely painful experiences with racism from fellow fans to illustrate the urgent reality of the evils named in the panel title. And that just brings us up to the start of the panel, and doesn't begin to account for all they contributed for the remaining 85 minutes, or in conversations afterward and in ongoing discussions now.

Meanwhile, I figured I had just one job as moderator (apart from trying not to get in the way), but when the moment came near the end of the panel session, I didn't see it coming in the first place, and froze up in the second place, only reacting after the 'f---ed up' grenade had gone off in everyone's faces. Not so good.

As far as the specific content of the panel is concerned, others -- including the panelists themselves -- have already written about it in greater detail and with better insight, I think, so I won't try to repeat in this post what so many have said better in other journals.

I confess that I hid out for the remainder of Sunday afternoon, first in the Star Trek (TOS) snark-fest ("The Trouble with Tribbles" and "Mirror, Mirror" -- which were revealed to be much slashier than I had remembered!) and the closing ceremonies. [livejournal.com profile] missmurchison and I made periodic visits to the Dead Writer Party that night, in case any help was needed yet in packing up or cleaning up, and in order to rescue any stray alcoholic beverages which might otherwise go to waste.

That first glass of wine might have been a mistake, but the refill certainly was, since it only exacerbated my weariness and my difficulty in hearing what others were saying in conversation. I actually hear quite well -- don't get me wrong -- but just as my eyes seem to go off in different directions and have trouble focusing more when I'm tired, so also my ears seem to have greater trouble picking out one voice from all the other voices in the room when I'm worn down. At that point, I was only clearly distinguishing about three words out of every ten spoken to me or next to me. Just as I'd done at the opening party on Thursday night, I started watching everyone's faces as much as I could, in hopes of using visual cues to fill in the missing words from a mental list of "most common con talk". However, judging by the strange looks I occasionally received, I didn't always guess correctly and apparently came out with some noticeable non sequiturs. I took that as my cue to call it a night, in spite of the urge to stretch out the last few hours of con conviviality to store up like nuts for a long, cold winter.

So, to anyone I might have spoken with on Sunday night, if I returned an inappropriate or nonsensical reply to you please believe that it was not through inattention or inebriation. I was simply unable to correctly fill in the 70% of your words that were lost in the background clutter of other conversations all around us. (That's probably another reason why parties, and especially parties with music, tend to put me on edge, since focusing on one voice among all the other voices and sounds becomes so much more difficult, and I hate appearing foolish.)

[livejournal.com profile] astridv had to leave early Monday morning, but Miss M and I checked out fairly late and headed back for Cedar Rapids. Our travel time was lengthened by a leisurely breakfast/lunch at Perkins (yes, only the most haute of cuisine for us!) and by a stop for gas that began to bear an uncomfortable resemblance to Buffy's experience with the mummy hand and the afternoon shift at the Magic Box that seemed to go on forever (ask Miss M about it sometimes, since she's the one who bore the brunt of that detour into the Twilight Zone).

Monday ended happily (for me, at least!) with a marathon viewing of season 3 of the Paul Gross series "Slings & Arrows", which I'd been wanting to see for a long time and which the Murchison family happened to have on DVD, and even watched with me for the last few episodes.

Miss M had to work out of her home office on Tuesday, with brief breaks, but I enjoyed a lazy day of reading one of the many J. D. Robb "...in Death" novels she'd loaned me, helping to water the herbs and tomato plants which had gone thirsty in Miss M's absence, and catching up on a couple of science fiction series on the DVR. The highlight of the day, though, was going to see the "Star Trek" movie for my third time and Miss M's second at the local budget theater.

I'd seen it alone both the previous times (well, alone except for a large number of strangers in the seats around me) and Miss M had seen it with her non-Trekker family, so we both enjoyed seeing it again with a fellow fan, nudging one another at the "in joke" moments, and squeeing and rejoicing in great detail afterwards.

For instance (and I hope I'm safe in assuming that nobody needs mild spoiler warnings for the movie at this point?), I hadn't previously noted how much the character of the new James T. Kirk resembles Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan, at times. I got a very Illyan-Miles kind of vibe from that final look between Pike and Kirk near the end, making me think, "Be careful what you dare this young man to do, for he may exceed your expectations to a terrifying degree." Plus, there's that whole bluffing (mostly) your way from academy misfit to commander of a starship in a few short days -- using gall, startling competence, and sheer force of personality -- that Miles and New-Jim both seem to share.

Or maybe that's just me?

Wednesday was spent driving ten and a half hours straight (with two brief stops for gas, one of which included a side-trip to pick up fast food for the road), in order to get back to TN while there was still a bit of daylight left -- just long enough for me to nip around back and pick all those ripe and over-ripe tomatoes (cherry, yellow pear, and my first ripe Mr. Stripey) and raspberries (red, and a few gold) which had accumulated in my absence. I have my priorities, after all, and during August fresh raspberries and home-grown tomatoes seem to rank pretty high, for some reason.

[Okay, that's MOST of the post I wrote this afternoon and which LJ promptly ate. I think the original version was more eloquent, or maybe even more coherent, but this is what I could piece together tonight.]
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posted by [identity profile] redeem147.livejournal.com at 02:44am on 09/08/2009
I think there may have been those at the 'ism' panel who didn't realize who you were and how much sexism you must have faced in your career.

That's one panel I'm glad I wasn't modding.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 03:12am on 09/08/2009
thanks for the positive feedback -- I was so afraid of looking like I was trying to control the panel that I probably didn't contribute as much as I should have.
 
posted by [identity profile] spiralleds.livejournal.com at 03:32am on 09/08/2009
(Of course, my expectations for just how badly it could have gone may be distorted by some very un-Christian gatherings I've attended, at which the ordination of women and LGBT persons was discussed with a notable lack of love or mutual respect and a great deal of vitriol. As long as no-one is throwing "God says..." or "God is on my side" bombs at anyone else, I actually have something to be glad of. Which is sad, in and of itself, I guess.)

I can relate exactly to what you are talking about. (I've been at some synod assemblies where my heart just hurt. Though with the synod I'm in now, our synod was really polite and nearly absent the type of language that makes me grit my teeth. Plus, I'm exceedingly hopeful about the ordination of gay and lesbian persons.

And I think you did a great job modding.
Edited Date: 2009-08-09 03:34 am (UTC)
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 04:01am on 09/08/2009
Thank you! That does help.

I worship at a "More Light" Presbyterian church when I'm not preaching myself, but my dad (another Presbyterian minister, retired) is of the opinion that our denomination will split (and probably should, in his view, since compromise just seems to be making everyone miserable) before LGBT ordination can go through in the more liberal half (which is the half he'd go with). The older I get (and the longer I see my gay and lesbian colleagues pushed aside or kicked out) the more I tend to agree with dear old Dad. I'm a lot less tolerant for the crap clergywomen are expected to take, as well, though I used to be willing to take the 'stealth' approach and try to do my own version of fighting from within the belly of the beast (now I feel alot more like NFA Angel, at times).

It's so good to be able to talk to someone who gets that.
 
posted by [identity profile] spiralleds.livejournal.com at 03:50am on 11/08/2009
I really need to do up a post, as there's been so much going on in the ELCA. A few years back there was a vote going on that I thought for sure would split the church, and I was just praying for finish seminary before that happened. The good news was the vote didn't split us. (Mind you, had it gone the other way, it likely would have.)

Now we seem to be on a trajectory of inclusion, bit by bit. A couple weeks from now will be telling. If the vote goes in the direction I'm in favor of, I do anticipate churches/pastor leaving. However, I think it will be a rather limited number. More splinters off the trunk that splitting the trunk in two.

A) The nature of Lutherans is fairly willing to live with the tension of differences and B) Generally the most conservative ELCA Lutherans are liberal on certain issues (women's ordination, women voting, etc.) so it's not like running off and joining the Wisconsin or Missouri Lutheran Churches is an option.

Like I said, I need to do a full post.

P.S. Yes, it is nice to have folks who get it.
Edited Date: 2009-08-11 03:52 am (UTC)
 
posted by [identity profile] garnigal.livejournal.com at 04:01am on 09/08/2009
Great con report, but as a Canadian, I'm fixated on the Slings and Arrows - did you enjoy it? :)
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 04:08am on 09/08/2009
Loved it! The final episode, especially, was so good: Anna's summation of Richard as someone who ALMOST became a human being, but then lost his soul; the 'fanfic' version of King Lear in the church rec hall (I say 'fanfic' because it's done not for profit or acclaim, or even for a large audience, but for the sheer love of the art, and the desire to be part of a moment of perfect truth); and above all the way so many of the characters seem to come full circle from the beginning of the first series, only with a whole lot of issues finally resolved. Helen's science fiction series was also a hoot. And -- like any good Shakespearian comedy -- it ended with a wedding celebration!

Lucky Canadians, to have seen this years ago!
 
posted by [identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com at 03:05pm on 09/08/2009
I had no idea what I was asking of you when I gave you those tickets. I'm really sorry. At least you got a good cardio workout? :)

The -isms panel I thought went very well. As a slash reader, and sometimes writer, I hadn't considered all the ways my voyeurism might be adversely effecting people I would never want to hurt. It was eye opening.

It is a shame that the last 5 minutes experienced something ugly. The more I hear from all sides the more I think some kind of miscommunication occurred. The more I wonder if I misheard myself although I was sitting right in front of the woman. Maybe my desire that no one would sit in that panel for 85 minutes and then say something completely insensitive colored my hearing.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 08:12pm on 09/08/2009
No problem with the prize thing -- I really DID need to get a bit of exercise. I think I was exaggerating for comic effect!
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posted by [personal profile] jerusha at 05:22pm on 09/08/2009
You know, now that you mention it, New!Kirk and Miles do share quite a bit in common.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 08:06pm on 09/08/2009
THANK you! I'm glad it's not just my over-active imagination seeing similarities where none exist. New!Kirk DOES seem to be an advocate of 'forward momentum', at least at times.
 
posted by [identity profile] missmurchison.livejournal.com at 12:36am on 10/08/2009
I'm sorry I was such a horrible host, especially on Tuesday. My life is not my own when one month rolls over to the next. Most months, I could have dumped a lot of the work on someone else, but our busy season is proving even busier than usual.

I think just moving on after the outbursts at the -isms panel was the best thing. Had it happened in the first few minutes, it would have been possible to talk it out. But it occurred too close to the end to do anything constructive just then.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 02:13pm on 10/08/2009
You were NOT a horrible host at all! I knew you'd have to work those days, and I was perfectly prepared to entertain myself (though I had thought I'd be a lot more ambitious and perhaps drive down to the mall to take in some matinees and other stuff I don't get to do during the work week at home; however, it turned out all I wanted to do was lie around and read and watch TV, and I don't see how you could have been any more helpful with that!).

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