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I've only seen the Angel series finale about one and a half times (last night, while I was taping it and editing out commercials, and then re-watching the first half this morning before I had to go to another doctor's appointment), and I've taken no actual notes on dialog or anything else, as yet, but here are my unscientific musings on this episode, so far:

Over-all Personal Satisfaction rating (on a scale of 0 to 10, where 10 = 'orgasmic ecstasy that goes on for at least twenty minutes afterwards' and 0 = 'something akin to anaphylactic shock after eating a food that you've never liked anyway'): about 7.5 (compared to an 8.7 for "Chosen").

I loved vast stretches of this episode (especially the chances to 'tie up' a few loose ends, like Gunn's conversation with Chanterelle/Lily/"Anne Steele", whom we hadn't seen since "Blood Money" and "Thin Dead Line" in AtS season 2, and the unambiguously good father-son rapport between Connor and Angel). There were MANY scenes and exchanges between characters that went down like fine champagne and perfectly aged Omaha filet mignon (or exquisite pieces of vegetarian sushi and tempura, if you prefer a less carnivorous metaphor).

But there were also major -- probably intentional -- bits of gristle and bone that were extremely hard for me to swallow (the apparent soul-killing disillusionment of Lorne, for one thing, or the shocking execution of Lindsey in his moment of greatest "team-spirit," for another). Maybe "gristle and bone" is the wrong metaphor for those hard-to-digest bits -- maybe they were intended to be more like VERY hot peppers, to make us gasp and sweat and remember all over again that we're alive, or else we wouldn't be able to feel such pain. After all, Joss Whedon is the "don't-give-them-what-they-want-but-rather-what-they-NEED" guy, and with at least the vague possibility of continuing the story of Angel and co. at some later date (no matter how unlikely that now seems, with no Angel TV movies on the WB schedule for the foreseeable future and Whedon's attention firmly focused on his Firefly film), he might well have decided to leave us with something to keep chewing over, something that we feel still needs to be resolved in future episodes or countless fanfics.


I. The Delicious . . . (in no particular order)

--Gunn's "If-I-knew-I-was-going-to-die-tomorrow-I-would-plant-a-tree-today" spiritual refresher from Anne Steele, as he helped her keep on keeping on with her ministry to street kids.

--Spike "making his presence felt" by reciting the poem he'd written for Cecily all those years ago ("bulge in't . . . effulgent") to enthusiastic and positive reception from the crowd in what must be the toughest biker/poetry bar in L.A..

--Angel's "At the risk of sounding pretentious, one of you will betray me" speech, immediately followed by Spike raising his hand, and then asking if he could at least deny Angel three times.

--Wesley being cast as the pseudo-Judas-Iscariot, in order to take out the sorceror (when in reality, you could argue that he was playing a sort of Peter-in-search-of-redemption role: having 'denied' Angel on at least two previous occasions, when he stole Connor in season 3 and when he broke the window-cube-thingy this season, he PRETENDED to deny Angel a third time, but only in order to demonstrate that ultimately he was now ready to follow his 'Master' even unto a sort of death on a cross).

--Spike taking on a whole passle of the Fell Brethren while holding the baby boy in one arm (shades of classic Xena fight scenes). Too adorable for words.

--Gunn recovering his "Joy of Staking" (apologies to the JOY OF COOKING copyright holders) and whole-hearted glee in taking out the demon Senator and her army of vampire minions.

--Connor telling his dad Angel, "You're such a girl", with so much easy affection that I had to laugh.

--Connor showing up to help Dad out in the crucial fight scene, thus drawing it out enough for Marcus to make the mistake of using the "b-word" and giving Angel the clue he needed to defeat him.

--Angel telling Connor that as long as Connor was safe, the Senior Partners couldn't destroy Angel.

--the delightful slashiness of the Angel/Lindsey conversation, with the references to Lindsey tuning out Angel's preachiness but admiring Angel's record as the biggest mass-murderer he'd ever met AND admiring the fact that Angel was a vampire with "big brass testes" who was about to pick the nastiest fight since humankind drop-kicked the last pure demon out of this dimension. Angel: "I want you, Lindsey. ...I'm thinking about re-phrasing that." Lindsey: "I'd be more comfortable if you did."

--Illyria's lines, especially to Wesley, and especially the one that prompted him to tell her what an inspiring person she is (about pulling her enemies' eyes out of their sockets just far enough to turn them around and let them see the mewling remains of their mutilated faces -- sheer poetry!).

--Illyria and Gunn telling each other, "try not to die". Awww.

--the "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" parallels at the very end, as Illyria, the gravely wounded Gunn, Spike, and Angel prepare to face the armies of hell, and Angel says he's always wanted to kill the dragon.


II. The Difficult . . .

--the fact that Wesley died, even if he DID get to go out nobly and inspire Illyria to even greater heights of kick-ass rage and grief out of affection for him.

--the possibility that Wesley didn't really want to win or survive that final battle, considering how poorly armed he turned out to be (unless Illyria's affection for him is classified as a concealed weapon) -- the guy who, in his 'dark Wesley' phase, used to have big honking bladed weapons up both sleeves, and the guy who unhesitatingly filled his own 'dad' full of bullet holes earlier this season.

(Wesley being the one among them who had no desire to do anything or be anywhere in particular during their 'day off' could have been a clue, of course. But I simply wasn't prepared for that possibility -- enjoying too much the hotness of him and his apparently restored relationship with Angel, I guess, as well as his exchanges with Illyria.)

--Harmony being cast as the REAL Judas (I was so hoping her liaison with Hamilton was just a particularly clever way of keeping him occupied while enjoying his undeniable hunkiness, and then send him off on a wild goose chase of some sort) -- implying that she hasn't changed at all, really, since her season AtS season 2 betrayal in "Disharmony", and that having no soul still equates to no ability to feel love or to change.

(I could comment on all the ways that Spike's actions in BtVS seasons 5 and 6 challenged that assumption, and I could point out that Angel seems to be generalizing an awful lot based on his OWN experience of being incapable of love or loyalty of any kind until he was forcibly re-united with his human soul -- but I won't. Not right now, anyway.)

--the possibility that Gunn might be on the verge of expiring himself, at the very end of the episode.

--the idea that Angel might be able to sign away his 'rights' to the Shanshu.

(I'm still chewing over the idea that 'hope' is stronger than 'loyalty' -- that may be a very good thing, but should those two qualities really be separate or competing?. More importantly, what good is an ancient prophecy that can simply be signed away? And I'm not sure how I feel about Spike telling Angel that as long as Angel wasn't winning the prize, getting to be a real live boy, he didn't mind not winning it himself. Is that perhaps taking the "If you say 'Kill Spike' we might have to kiss" and "Well, then, can I deny you three times?" raillery a bit too far?)


III. The Downright Distasteful . . .

--Lorne apparently having his last ounce of faith in Angel and the rightness of their cause shattered by Angel asking him to execute Lindsey, as soon as Lindsey did his part to help them in the war effort.

Now I understand why Lorne looked so sick and on the verge of throwing up while he was singing "If I Ruled the World" during what was supposed to be his free do-whatever-makes-you-happy day. Shades of that scene from season 4, where Lorne has been forcibly awakened from the "love-Jasmine" illusion and is sent to get Wes and Gunn so that they, too, can be stripped of that happy illusion! What was it Lorne said to himself before he put on his phony happy face and went out to get his friends? "Tonight, the role of Judas Iscariot will be played by Krevlorne Swath of the Deathwok Clan."

Maybe Fred was the one who got physically hollowed out and devoured in the process of Illyria coming into this world, but Lorne seems to have been spiritually eaten alive from the inside and left sick and hollow and in constant pain by the events of this season -- from having his sleep removed and proving that his unconscious mind really could NOT maintain a "judge-not-and-take-no-offense-at-anyone" attitude when confronted by the real evils represented by some of the W&H clientele, to faking it through his days with a phony court-jester exterior and nothing but copious amounts of alcohol to dull his grief and pain, to finally confronting Angel's expedient killing of Drogan and willingness to use up the last ounce of Lorne's loyalty and hope by asking him to kill Lindsey in cold blood.

--Lindsey's murder, even though you could probably make a strong argument that he had it coming, after all those many chances for redemption that he had turned down and all those dirty deals he must have done while working for W&H and ever since then in order to wind up with that enhanced strength and mystical knowledge, and after whatever hideous evils Lorne may have been able to see in Lindsey's future the last time he had occasion to read him. You could even argue that Lindsey should have been listening more closely, rather than counting on getting the Cliff's Notes version later, when Angel was telling him that this was a "destroy-all-evil-minions" mission and that Lindsey figured in Angel's mind as "the devil you know" and therefore, implicitly, someone on the hit list.

The issue isn't whether or not Lindsey deserved what he got. The issue is whether or not KILLING Lindsey in that particular way and at that particular time was a betrayal of Angel's self and mission. When Lindsey told Eve that, as long as he was fighting on Angel's team, Angel would play fair with him, I found that a fairly convincing argument. After all, Buffy didn't kill Spike and Dru (even if that might have been the 'smart' or 'practical' thing to do) when Spike was temporarily her ally in "Becoming" (though, arguably, Buffy didn't have the chance, since SHE had nobody else on her side in that battle and was herself fully occupied with fighting Angelus when Spike took Dru and left), so I had some reason to assume that Angel (who once said in "Gingerbread" that he'd learned what he knew about heroism from Buffy) would play his cards the same way.

Like Lorne, I would have liked to believe that killing an ally while he's still on your side and trusting you not to, falls under the heading of "We don't do that." But, like Lorne's discovery about leaving our people behind in hell dimensions, now I'm forced to accept that "I guess we do do that, now." And I don't particularly like the taste of that in my mouth.


Still, that's what fanfics and sequels are for, isn't it? To scratch those itches and mellow out some of those indigestible bits?

As I recall, it took about 6 years for Fox to get around to resolving the Alien Nation season-ending cliff-hanger by airing the first of those made-for-TV movies ("Alien Nation: Dark Horizon") -- hopefully, it won't take QUITE so long for the WB or whoever to get around to giving us a chance to revisit the Buffyverse and answer a few of the questions raised in this finale.
Music:: Handel's "Judas Maccabaeus" (wrong Judas, but still . . .)
Mood:: 'enthralled' enthralled
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posted by [identity profile] caille.livejournal.com at 03:46pm on 20/05/2004
This might end up being a truncated response, as I'm expecting visitors any second. But rev-d, you are just so interesting.

II. The Difficult

Wesley. See, I'd never give up on the possibility of bringing someone back from the brink of suicidal despair. I mean, by all rights, Willow shouldn't have come through her ordeal, but she did. I think she's permanently scarred and will always be a bit abstracted. But she can make the flowers grow, and be in someone's arms, and help save the world. I believe that Wesley might have been healed, however imperfectly, if there'd only be time and opportunity.

But honestly, even before Fred was consumed, I think that Wesley was taking on the aspect of Dead Man Walking. It's been coming on for years now, since he betrayed Angel with Connor - while meaning to do the right thing - but it really hit home for me this season after he opened fire on what he was sure was his father. Wesley annihilated him. He emptied the clip; he clearly meant to (as Harmony said once) kill him to death. I wonder if the die was cast then. He seemed to me to be half in this world and half in another. Right then...yeah, there was nowhere else he could think of to be, and so it was a brave, important death. But I think we could have made him want to live again. But there wasn't time.

(Contrast this battle with his first one as a brand new Watcher, being smacked down at Graduation and whimpering for aspirin. This man tried so very hard, and both Denisof and the writers made me believe his transformation.)

Harmony. Angel never quite understood what Harmony was capable of, I think because of his distaste for vamps in general. I think Harmony could have been part of the team, but Angel gave her little encouragement. Still, I think Harmony did pretty much what Angel expected, and it was good enough. He knew that when he asked her to stall Hamilton, she would....and that she'd also give Angel up. But it kept Hamilton distracted, so it contributed to the scheme, even if Harmony didn't intend to. That's why Angel had Harmony's letter of recommendation all ready for her. So I'm not disturbed by her betrayal. I also hope that our Harmonita might cross paths with Lorneytunes, and they can comfort each other.

Oops. Must run. Love your thoughts, will be back for mo'.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 06:00pm on 20/05/2004
"...even before Fred was consumed, I think that Wesley was taking on the aspect of Dead Man Walking. It's been coming on for years now, since he betrayed Angel with Connor - while meaning to do the right thing - but it really hit home for me this season after he opened fire on what he was sure was his father."

I think you're right. Thanks for reminding me of the air of someone haunted or not quite in this world that Wesley's had all season, even before he consciously regained his memories of that betrayal. His MIND may not have remembered before he broke the window-cube-thingy, but the wear-and-tear on his SOUL from that little sojourn in his personal hell still showed through. It's almost as if his love for Fred was the last blade of grass he clung to, in order to keep from falling off the face of the earth, and once Fred was gone, he just drifted away.

[When I was a kid, we had souvenir coffee mug from our sojourn in Ireland which said, "An Irishman is never drunk, so long as he can hold onto a single blade of grass and not fall off the face of the earth." Somehow, that image seemed appropriate to describe Wesley's relationship to the world of the living these last few months, or years.]


"Angel never quite understood what Harmony was capable of, I think because of his distaste for vamps in general. I think Harmony could have been part of the team, but Angel gave her little encouragement."

Yes -- I just got done writing something about that in my "post-script" to this post (it fit in beautifully with exploring the relationship between hope and loyalty). Angel's SELF-disgust does seem to color and perhaps even distort his view of what all other vamps are capable of. Even now that Spike has a soul, Angel has had some powerful mental block against seeing any good or real change in Spike, or being able to put any faith in Spike (without massive displays of reluctance and disbelief, at least).

Wonderful thoughts! Thanks for taking time to jot them down before your guests arrived, and I hope we get to talk about all this some more.
 
posted by [identity profile] cindyamb.livejournal.com at 12:57pm on 21/05/2004
I can't let your Harmony stuff pass by without comment. I love her. She entertains me. I'm glad she wasn't staked, but she doesn't have the raw materials necessary to not be bad to the extent that she can be more good than bad. That's sort of a primary point in 'verse mythology.

I agree with you that s5 and s6 seemed to be giving us evidence that Spike could be good without a soul, but then it also gave us lots of evidence that he couldn't be good enough. Ultimately, that's where the rape attempt (and the demon eggs, and the kidnapping in Crush, and more) was of use. Spike had hit his glass ceiling of goodness. He went further than a regular vamp (aka Harmony) could be expected to go, and that's because his (as a vampire) primary reason for being took a radical hit when he was chipped.

I have all sort of soul thoughts here, with the Spike vamp/chip/soul specific bits here.

I'm thankful that Harmony turned out to be a Judas. It would have negated a good bit of 'verse mythology if she'd been left telling us "I'm not good and I'm okay, and that's enough."
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 06:16pm on 21/05/2004
Some really provocative ideas, which I need to mull over before I can comment more fully.

For now, let me say that it is MORE than likely that in my enthusiasm for symmetry and a neat idea, I lost sight of the reality of Harmony (as a sheep who's always been a sheep, in the words of Cordelia in BtVS season 2, and who does what everyone else does only in order to claim she did it first).

Harmony's self-knowledge and self-understanding could fit into a thimble and still leave more than enough room for my thumb. She is merely drawn to the most powerful "group" or "whole" around her, and draws her identity entirely from being "a part" of some greater (or, in most cases, more evil) whole.

I've just been reviewing Paul Tillich's THE COURAGE TO BE as part of my research for my Slayage paper, and Harmony's an example of the worst sort of "courage to be as a part". Angel, in his worst moments of darkness and existential angst, represents a form of the "courage to be as oneself" (unrelated and unconnected to one's world). I'm hoping that in all of this season of AtS and the last two or three seasons of BtVS I'll also be able to find examples of the more transcendent and desirable form, simply "the courage to be" ('the courage to accept acceptance').
 
posted by [identity profile] jonesiexxx.livejournal.com at 04:09pm on 20/05/2004
Very thoughtful musings on Lindsey/Lorne/Angel. I didn't get that Angel sent Lorne on the mission when I watched it. Though everyone else seems to have. So clearly I have to use my actual brain next time I watch.

Angel is never easy and always messy.

I agree about Wesley. My sweet, fallen, dark, dear Wesley. He was done. Spent. Ripe.

For me, Chosen was a 9.9. And Not Fade Away, prolly a 9. It's rejuvenated and informed the way I see the whole series. (Plus bonus points for using Stones song title).

 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 06:39pm on 20/05/2004
"Angel is never easy and always messy."

Yeah, I keep trying to smoothe things over and tidy it all up, somehow, but real life ISN'T smooth and neat, and that's what makes the Buffyverse so darn compelling.

I'm thinking of the conversation between Giles and Buffy at the end of "Lie to Me," where BUFFY asks Giles to lie to her, and he tells her that life is actually terribly simple and the good guys always beat the bad guys and you can always tell which is which, etc.. Then, again, as Wesley lies dying, he says "yes, please" when Illyria offers to lie to him, and so she puts on her Fred persona and promises him that after DEATH, at least, things will finally get easier, and all his wounds will be healed and all the loose ends of his life will come together and make sense at last, as he finds peace and joy in the arms of his love.

I can't help wondering if there's a suggestion in all of this that our hopes (eschatological, theological, or of a more here-and-now nature) for life to all make sense, or to have some deeper meaning beyond the right-here-and-now, are based on our willingness to be lied to, when reality becomes too unjust or horrible to face. I HOPE not.

As for the ratings, I suspect that both "Not Fade Away" and "Chosen" suffer a bit from the fact that, no matter how WONDERFUL they are, I can't quite forgive them for marking the END of something I've loved. (Though, like the calico rabbit and the skin horse, things which are truly LOVED, loved to the point of becoming REAL to us in some meaningful way, DON'T just fade away -- they live on, no matter how dead or decrepit they may seem to the undiscerning eyes of the rest of the world.)

I think the highest personal satisfaction ratings I've given to any individual episodes would probably belong to the BtVS episodes "Amends" (maybe an 8.9 when I first saw it), "Fool for Love" (a solid 8.9 bumped up to a 9.2 at the very least, for that final scene on Buffy's back stoop), "The Gift" (9.3, even though the ending makes me cry every single time I watch it, simply because when I saw it the first time, I KNEW that the show was coming back in the Fall on UPN), and "Once More, With Feeling" (9.4, because it really spoke to MY deepest issues, and did so in the language of one of my favorite art forms since childhood, musical theater), and to AtS episodes like "I Will Remember You" (8.5, 'cause I couldn't quite accept Buffy having no choice or say in the matter of undoing Angel's mortality), "Hero" (9.2, 'cause Doyle went out with SUCH style and grace and took a part of my heart with him), and perhaps "Provider" (another 9.2 for that closing scene where Angel and Cordelia are falling asleep, with their bodies forming a living crib for baby Connor on the bed).

Your own ratings are probably fairer and more mature, since they're not based on the premise that a series finale MUST be penalized simply for BEING the series finale.
 
posted by [identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com at 04:09pm on 22/05/2004
can't help wondering if there's a suggestion in all of this that our hopes (eschatological, theological, or of a more here-and-now nature) for life to all make sense, or to have some deeper meaning beyond the right-here-and-now, are based on our willingness to be lied to, when reality becomes too unjust or horrible to face.

I don't think it is. In both cases Buffy and Wes know lie from truth. Buffy asks for it only to reject it and call Giles Liar, and for Wesley and Illyria it was also, not accepting a lie, but an odd kind of mercy, letting Wes to rest, letting Illyria to connect to someone... It suddenly occured to me that neither of them got what what they wanted, both of them got what they neede (but this idea needs more thinking-over)
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 01:05pm on 24/05/2004
I didn't mean to imply that either Buffy or Wesley was taken in for a moment by the 'lies' they asked for (I know they weren't) -- only to speculate on whether Joss Whedon et al were trying to tell us, implicitly or explicitly, that all the religious and/or mythological stories we tell ourselves to make living or dying easier ARE merely lies, whether we happen to believe in them or not. That was my only issue, there.

And, of course, when I say "mythological" above, I don't mean "false", "untrue," "pure fantasy" or anything of the sort. Just because a story or character is mythological doesn't mean it isn't TRUE in all the ways that really matter (in the same way that just because something is "fact", that doesn't mean that it is any more likely to give you a true picture of reality). Facts can lie (as we all know -- it depends on how they're presented, and what information might have been left out -- for example, see that episode of "Babylon 5" where the propagandist Earth news service, bragging that "we give you the facts, and let the truth take care of itself", presents a horribly distorted version of the reality on B5), and 'Fiction' can tell us the truth when no one else will, sometimes.
 
posted by [identity profile] soundingsea.livejournal.com at 07:41pm on 21/05/2004
Fascinating review as always.

6 years? I really can't wait 6 weeks. Fic will have to do.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 01:07pm on 24/05/2004
I'm with you -- gotta count on fanfic to keep my withdrawal symptoms at bay, until we (hopefully) get more from Joss.

Love the icon, btw! Glad to know where my next 'fix' is coming from!
 
posted by [identity profile] avrelia.livejournal.com at 03:37pm on 22/05/2004
the possibility that Wesley didn't really want to win or survive that final battle, considering how poorly armed he turned out to be

Actually, I take his words to Illyria “I do not intend to die” at their face value, and, though surprised, that he wasn't well-armed, tend to fanwank it as he was “the betrayer”, who came to talk, not to kill Vail. Although his fight was sadly full of missed opportunities and unfortunate coinsidences. I still hold that no matter how broken Wes was, there was some hope for him – at least he saw it.

And yes, poor Lorne... I can understand Angel, and Lorne, and Lindsay here – thinkning about it for the last couple of days, having read many sane ideas on it, but it still leaves a bitter taste in me.
 
posted by [identity profile] ljash.livejournal.com at 12:36pm on 23/05/2004
I also had a large problem with Lorne. He was demolished. This wasn't like his speech in the bar that episode, where he said he was sick of strapping on bells and pretending he could help. This was far beyond that.

I haven't seen anyone say it better; I liked your essay parts on Lorne. And I agree that in fact it was a bad statement on Angel. But then, I've thought that about a lot of what he's been doing. So maybe he isn't losing his mind and maybe he was planning a big fight-from-within. That doesn't change all that's happened to everyone. But then someone else pointed out that he slipped into W&H unintentionally, so while he was there he did the only thing he could: be a grenade from within.

But yes. I also think of Lorne's shocked, upset, but dismally accepting line when they had left Gunn behind: "I guess we do that now."

What I hadn't thought of was Lindsey's line to Eve. How he knew Angel would play him straight. I believed it, too. It means something that it's not true. It means a lot.

 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 01:52pm on 24/05/2004
"...Lindsey's line to Eve. How he knew Angel would play him straight. I believed it, too. It means something that it's not true. It means a lot."

Yes. Another reason for Lorne to look so nauseated -- not only did he have that horrible taste of ashes and betrayal in his mouth, which all the 'sea breezes' in the world couldn't wash away, but also his world was literally spinning off its course. If Angel could do this, something so contrary to what we thought we knew of his nature and core values, then how can Lorne tell if up is still up and down is still down?

Lorne just got off the moral and spiritual equivalent of one of those 'three-puke' rides at the county fair (one of those spinning, stomach-turning rides where an average of three kids can be expected to throw up afterwards, as they stagger away from it).

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