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posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 05:18pm on 13/03/2011
Indeed!

I was so tempted to have Spike, perhaps, come forth with an appropriate quote from the KJV (I just know that William was intimately familiar with the Book of Common Prayer and the KJV, even if he only attended services to make his mother happy), along the lines of 'what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?' -- since that seems to me to be what too many people do, choosing to cling to the world view their parents had given them EVEN if that worldview said that they were irrevocably damned.

It's the only explanation I can find for cases like the 30-something-year-old gay man who loved his partner but couldn't be dissuaded from the belief -- imparted to him by his dead parents -- that his homosexuality meant he was forever barred from God's love and grace. That just made me so sad, and so MAD . . . !
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posted by [identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com at 08:51pm on 13/03/2011
I have a very dear friend whose partner you could have just described. Except his parents are still living. It's intensely frustrating, and no matter what authority you present them with they will not let go.

I always pictured William as a good Anglican boy. I think Angel is partly a product of Catholic guilt. The things I read about public humiliation of the "sinner" in the years a little before his time were very educational.
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posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 12:02am on 14/03/2011
Yeah, Angel's worldview is definitely shaded by his particular upbringing in Catholic Ireland of the 1700s, whereas Spike is not only from a different country and later century, but also had a very different family and religious background, not to mention the differences in their basic dispositions and interests, when they were alive.

Angel's human dad seemed to have a particularly harsh theology, from what we saw in flashbacks, and I can't but think that that colors his entire view of God and goodness.
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