posted by [identity profile] chartophile.livejournal.com at 10:37pm on 03/10/2005
But, arriving late in the story, it remains a plot point rather than a developed concept.'

I suppose they mean the people on the planet, but I kind of got the whole "behavior modification = bad" message within the first ten minutes when River was being modified. I didn't see it as a sudden jump at all, since I'd think a government who would do that to young adults would have no issues applying the same techniques to a larger group like a planet. Why not?

Also, hi! *waves*
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 10:48pm on 03/10/2005
Hi, yourself!

And, yes indeed, it OUGHT to have occurred to that reviewer that such a theme had been present from the beginning. Apparently, he/she had gotten too used to "hit-you-over-the-head-with-one-idea-incessantly" films, however much he/she might laud Joss Whedon's subtler delivery.

 
posted by [identity profile] chartophile.livejournal.com at 11:07pm on 03/10/2005
I'm a bit confused about the timeline, I think. How did River end up with memories from the dead people and the Reavers? I understand she'd know what the members of the government knew, but would they have such specific details? That seems like something they'd just get a memo on.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 07:10pm on 04/10/2005
I thought that she initially had the memories of the officials, who'd gotten all the reports and seen all the images, presumably, but that then, when she was exposed to the people and scenes where the events had happened, her psychic abilities picked up some kind of residual impressions.

And the Reavers were in close enough proximity to her on the planet and on the ship (well, the one, before he got shot) that she might well have picked up some stuff then without fully being able to process it. Does that sound convincing?
 
posted by [identity profile] chartophile.livejournal.com at 09:55pm on 04/10/2005
I'm convinced, and can definitely buy into the theory she picked up on the memories of the Reavers.

I get more and more creeped out about the whole thing the more I think about it.
 
posted by [identity profile] missmurchison.livejournal.com at 11:19pm on 03/10/2005
I'm with you and the Rev on this one. The idea of behavior modification is introduced in the first few minutes with River's story. Actually, her statement as a child that the people of the outer worlds hate being told what to think. Didn't she even say something like, "We get in their heads?"

It's later strongly implied in the Operative's discussion with Mal, when he says he won't be welcome in the paradise his masters are creating. How did anyone think the Alliance was planning to create this paradise?

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